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1. The Scottish Government proposes that dog, cat and rabbit breeding activities should be regulated. Do you agree?

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2. Do you agree with the proposal to set the licensing threshold for dog, cat and rabbit breeders at three or more litters a year?

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I don't think an arbitrary number as a threshold for licensing is the answer. I work in rescue and some of our biggest headaches have been caused by people who would not call themselves breeders, and who would be completely under the radar of this legislation. For instance, the couple who let their pet, unregistered Redacted texthave a litter once a year by their Redacted text Redacted text. The resulting puppies are sold at £50 each and we are now seeing second and third generations of this "family". They are all large, unruly creatures in irresponsible homes.
On the other hand, I know dedicated breeders who are true enthusiasts of their chosen breed. By and large they can have anything between none, and 4 litters in a given year - depending on bitches' seasons, ages, campaigning in the showring etc. Their standards would probably exceed licensing requirements but I know many are worried that by becoming licensed, they will be officially classed as a business and therefore their mortgages, local authority rates, bank accounts, insurances etc will all be affected.
Finally, I have severe doubts about how effectively this will be policed/enforced. Local authorities are already struggling financially and many are failing to enforce existing legislation due to lack of staff. It seems to me that only hobby breeders will be made accountable. Casual backyard breeders will still be under the radar and larger commercial breeders are already licensed anyway (and continue to operate with poor conditions and with questionable ethics)

3. Do you have any comments on the thresholds that should apply? Should these be different for the separate species?

Do you have any comments on the thresholds that should apply? Should these be different for the separate species?
No - why should they?

4. Do you agree with the proposal that a breeding dog, cat or rabbit must not give birth to more than six litters in their lifetime?

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Four litters are enough for any breeding bitch or queen. I don't know enough about rabbits to comment.

5. Do you agree with the proposal that as a condition of licensing, premises should only be allowed a maximum of 20 breeding dogs or cats within one calendar year?

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Dogs and cats are not herd animals and should not be kept in such large numbers. They need individual attention (especially dogs)

6. Do you agree that individuals with unspent convictions for animal welfare offences or other criminal convictions (e.g. fraud) should not be allowed to hold a licence for breeding activities?

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OBVIOUSLY a person with animal welfare offences (even spent ones) should not be able to become a licensed breeder. I am not sure why other criminal convictions should be taken into account - although I suppose a breeder should be a trustworthy person.

7. Are there other considerations, apart from criminal convictions, that should be part of a ‘fit and proper person’ test for those running dog, cat or rabbit breeding activities?

Are there other considerations, apart from criminal convictions, that should be part of a ‘fit and proper person’ test for those running dog, cat or rabbit breeding activities?
I think membership of an accredited scheme such as the Kennel Club's Assured Breeder Scheme, while not perfect, should be mandatory for anyone getting a licence. The ABS inspection is far more thorough than any by a local authority.

8. The Scottish Government proposes that reasonable costs of inspections should be charged to recover costs to inspectors approved by Scottish Ministers or local authorities. Do you agree with that proposal?

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I have little faith in the efficiency of Local Authorities. And "reasonable costs" - what does that mean? Who will decide what is reasonable? Is this going to turn into a money-making exercise for cash-strapped L.A.'s?

9. Should licence fees be set by the authorised inspectors, local authorities or by the Scottish Government? Do you have any comments on what cost is reasonable and what should be included in this? (For example, this might include recovery of administrative costs, or payment for the inspector’s time etc.)

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I would say central Government should set the scale of fees as local authorities and authorised inspectors are less likely to be impartial.
I would urge the government to work in partnership with the Kennel Club who already have a UKAS accredited scheme in place, that they subsidise, with thorough inspections that last over three hours. This would reduce the burden on local authorities.

10. The Scottish Government considers that licences lasting from one to three years may be issued on the basis of a welfare risk assessment. Do you agree?

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11. Do you think that a national list of licensed premises and activities should be kept?

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Smacks of Big Brother. Why would a national list be necessary?

12. Do you have any comments on who should be able to access information from the list, and if a charge should be made for information?

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Yes I have comments! I think we should tread very carefully here. Data protection laws apply. I think any application for information should be assessed individually and carefully on a "need to know" basis. No organisation should have carte blanche right of access. Yes I think there should be a charge as assessing the application and granting access will both cost in terms of time.

13. The Scottish Government believes that enforcement agencies should be able to suspend, vary or revoke licenses or issue improvement notices for minor irregularities. Do you agree with this proposal?

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As long as the "enforcement agencies" are fair, knowledgeable, fully-trained, unbiased and without their own agenda. Not a campaigning animal welfare organisation.

14. The Scottish Government proposes that new legislation will require compliance with any relevant Scottish Government guidance as one of the licence conditions. Do you agree that this should be a condition of licensing? If you are aware of any other relevant standards please comment.

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KC Assured breeder scheme.

15. Do you agree that appropriate fixed penalties should be available for minor non-compliance with the licensing legislation? (These are not currently available for animal welfare offences but may be introduced in future.)

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Legislation needs teeth to be effective

16. Do you agree that the Scottish Government should discourage the breeding of dogs, cats and rabbits with a predisposition for specific genetic conditions, which lead to health problems in later life?

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Absolutely. Breeding breeds with physical traits that cause discomfort or pain needs to be closely monitored, as should the new fad for "rare" colours in some breeds that are known to be genetically linked to various diseases.
All breeding animals should have the relevant health tests as decreed by the Kennel Club.
A word of caution here though - breeding is still more an art than an exact science, so it has to be remembered that many factors have to be considered when planning a mating. A dog is more than a bunch of certificates. The tests enable experienced breeders to make informed choices. Black and white rules may have an adverse effect longer-term by reducing the gene pool for the breed.

17. Do you agree that as a condition of licensing, any breeding practices which are likely to cause the offspring suffering in later life should be prohibited?

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I would qualify my answer by advising caution. "Likely to cause" should open to interpretation. Take guidance from the experts with different viewpoints. Don't, for instance, just decide on an arbitrary score for hips above which a dog can't be bred from. Hip dysplasia is multi-factorial. Instead the bigger picture needs to be considered - parents' scores, grandparents' scores, sibling scores etc. There is also an environmental influence. The mode of inheritance is not fully understood. And the way scores are reached is not 100% reliable. So to set a cut-off could be counter-productive to the overall breed - you could have a bitch with a score slightly above the published breed average who excels in every other area, lost to the gene pool. Yet another who has average hips could have several siblings with clinical hip dysplasia and who will produce it herself. I agree absolutely that breeding from untested animals is wrong. Also breeding dogs with excessive skin or foreshortened faces, or British Shorthair cats with diaphragm problems should just have an outright ban.

18. Do you have any comment on any other appropriate measures the Scottish Government could take to discourage harmful breeding practices?

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I think the Scottish government should form a working party made up from different areas to advise and develop a strategy. Yes, include the SPCA but there are also other experts in animal welfare. Association of Dogs and Cats Homes can advise on independent Scottish members. Vets and even experienced breeders should be involved. Breeds each have their own Breed Council, and most Scottish breed clubs will have their own breed health representative to Breed Council.

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Fiona Clarkson

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Dumfries & Galloway Canine Rescue Centre